tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post3070708275004065092..comments2023-10-10T03:57:29.110-07:00Comments on Razing Ruth: 19 Kids and Counting...Razing Ruthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04854418022850278216noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-70041507353831680612012-03-12T18:51:22.738-07:002012-03-12T18:51:22.738-07:00I just found your blog and have been captivated, r...I just found your blog and have been captivated, reading for hours.<br /><br />This one specifically- As a premature baby myself, you have very eloquently explained exactly why I have been angry with the Duggars about their recklessness. I, like Josie, was born at 25 weeks and it wasn't without a stream of complications, and this was back in 1988. I can't fathom how someone would continue to try to procreate knowing that this is what they are risking. <br /><br />Thank you so much for this, you have been very informative and though this is a long while after you started this blog, I do wish you the best in finding your way :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-29829491900313678102011-11-12T04:41:04.587-08:002011-11-12T04:41:04.587-08:00CCRUE:
I suggest you read this blog post about th...CCRUE:<br /><br />I suggest you read this blog post about those "happy" children. http://dulcefamily.blogspot.com/2011/11/but-they-look-so-happy.html<br /><br />They have been conditioned through brainwashing and physical abuse to look happy all the time. That is not true happiness ... those are robots. I should know, because I was also conditioned to be one.Kendrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11236056025996019354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-56720918719469721942010-08-24T12:15:05.981-07:002010-08-24T12:15:05.981-07:00First off I don't think many of you know what ...First off I don't think many of you know what you are talking about. So many judgmental people out there who have no clue what or who they are talking about. I do watch the show and I believe this family and their kids look very happy. I believe their hearts are right on and they have NEVER once tried to throw their convictions on anybody else. They state all the time that this is what they feel is right for them and that the Lord put it on their hearts. Never once have they said that this is what you have to do to be right with God. As a matter of fact for all of you people who have so much hate in your hearts for people you don't even know I think you should maybe look within before you cast judgment. I don't think that even after seeing such hateful comments about themselves they would even for a second say one word bad about you. It sure says a lot about where your hearts are in comparison to theirs. I know for me I will choose to listen and follow ones who are full of love and compassion and not hate and ignorance. After all that is who God is he is a God of love.CCRUEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15642162624831170172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-56906891722032512362010-08-20T14:43:06.531-07:002010-08-20T14:43:06.531-07:00If the Duggars quit TV altogether, they may have t...If the Duggars quit TV altogether, they may have to quit all the vacations and missions for one. They wouldn't have the money to help out the kids when they age out of the house, or keep all the kids in their own vehicles when they get their license. They would have to live like the majority of our nation...hand to mouth. If it wasn't for TLC I do not see how they could manage all they have now. Michelle doesn't have an outside job, and neither does daddy Duggar. Look at what they have while you are watching the show...they have a LOT of nice, expensive stuff. Braces on teeth without insurance (unless they pay for private insurance) is outrageous! I know...I have 2 in braces, and 5 that needed braces when they were young. I do enjoy watching the show though, don't know why.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-60348053675781410662010-08-09T00:29:30.119-07:002010-08-09T00:29:30.119-07:00There has got to be some kind of abuse going on in...There has got to be some kind of abuse going on in this family.<br /><br />I pray those innocent kids get out, and FAST!DaughterOfTheLordhttp://www.littlesuzythehomemaker.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-75506864746528743562010-08-09T00:24:14.401-07:002010-08-09T00:24:14.401-07:00Someone from the Arkansas DCFS (department of chil...Someone from the Arkansas DCFS (department of children and family services)should investigate this "family" for child labor laws violations and neglect or abuse.Mary K.http://www.littlesuzyhomemaker.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-44449705582622221592010-08-01T18:59:28.764-07:002010-08-01T18:59:28.764-07:00I am the opposite of a Duggar kid, I`m an only chi...I am the opposite of a Duggar kid, I`m an only child and I only have 2 of my own children.<br />I had parents that looked after me and took care of me and didnt brush their obligation and responsiblilies off to siblings or other family members and I do the same with my own childre.<br />When God said "Go forth and multiply" I dont think he meant go reproduce until your body is a raw piece of hamberger and your kids have to look after each other and themselves. <br />Not speaking for God actually but I think he meant have some children and a family and be happy without becoming a circusAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-13858498226339699592010-06-24T06:28:27.705-07:002010-06-24T06:28:27.705-07:00I had pre-eclampsia and was informed by my OBGYN t...I had pre-eclampsia and was informed by my OBGYN that this does not mean that I will have it with any future pregnancy. Having it once does not guarantee or increase your chances of having it again. It's a crap shot whether it's your first pregnancy or your 10th.Cathynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-88588539917057659112010-06-08T18:54:39.108-07:002010-06-08T18:54:39.108-07:00I posted the "everyone mind your own business...I posted the "everyone mind your own business",and I forgot to say that Ruth is begging for money and doesn't have a TV show or 19 kids so why in the world would I give her any money? Are you going to give me some Ruth?!!<br />No I didn't think so.....get a job and stop begging bitch!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-10416697268683832952010-06-08T18:47:23.854-07:002010-06-08T18:47:23.854-07:00Well I know that I'm not the only person who l...Well I know that I'm not the only person who loves this family very much. I think it is their decision and their right to have as many kids as they want to. In fact,if they do decide to have more children then so be it. What right does anyone have to say that they should stop having children if that's what they want to do? Besides,the other children are always VERY happy when Michelle says "I'm pregnant"!! SO MAYBE YOU ALL SHOULD JUST MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS AND STOP SAYING NEGATIVE THINGS ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE!!!!!!None of you would appreciate being talked about either so please just stop it. I mean come on people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-29450245657732460832010-05-30T18:53:42.852-07:002010-05-30T18:53:42.852-07:00Thank you so much for posting this! I have QF acq...Thank you so much for posting this! I have QF acquaintances who don't seem to understand the seriousness of pre-eclempsia, or else they're too busy "trusting God" to take it seriously. I have two children and was pre-eclemptic with both of them, and my doctor advised me not to have any more. Fortunately DH & I hadn't planned to have more than two anyway, but I still feel like some QF or NFP people look down on us for only having two, even after they've heard my birth stories (two emergency c-sections due to high blood pressure, fortunately both at or after 37 weeks). I will not endanger my life and risk my children having to grow up without their mother just to please someone else. I believe God gave me the wisdom to make this decision, and the QF/NFP crowd can just suck it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-25979520114448974782010-05-09T22:19:29.674-07:002010-05-09T22:19:29.674-07:00Seriously, does anyone else see what I see?! They ...Seriously, does anyone else see what I see?! They need to stop having kids period! There shouldn't be money put towards them for recklessly reproducing. The babies are starting to look like the Curious Case of Benjamin Button! What is wrong with that woman?! Do your kids a favor and quit having poor little humans hindered for life, because you know the older kids are the ones who will really have to take care of the handicapped children because the mom and dad will be stretched so thin between so many children and money issues. People will get sick of the show eventually because it's not realistic and where will the money come from? That lady should have her tubes tied by law. She did well with the first half, but when a doctor tells you to quit, maybe... just maybe, she should God DAMN LISTEN!!! Really, it's her selfishness as the driving force. She won't have all the attention if she's no longer pumping out the kids. QUIT LADY!!! QUIT! She should do our population a favor and quit flooding it with her inferior genetics of stupidity. Obviously there's something mental with her because any normal person would realize that having children with those kinds of problems would stop! I don't want to pay for that crap with my taxes!!! Medically, obviously we are footing the bill with all the time her babies spend there. I just had a baby myself and I can't imagine forcing a medical condition on my child because I was too old and no longer produce functional offspring. That's to most selfish thing I have EVER seen, and I'm a Natural Resource Management student who studies pollution, waste, human impact on environment, and other absolutely selfish issues on the behalf of the human race. So, overall, this show and this family has offically made me royally disgusted! I want to start a ban on the show to demonstrate that strangers even know better than that mother! Mother is a generous term and I use it loosely. She is more of a queen bee pumping out offspring with little to no regard for the babies. Let me know what you think...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-21861192426570511072010-04-26T14:41:39.625-07:002010-04-26T14:41:39.625-07:00I am the oldest of seven, also homeschooled, and m...I am the oldest of seven, also homeschooled, and my parents have been in ATI since 1988 with the exception of a couple years. Though I did help out with the youngers some as a child (mostly the occasional diaper change, taking to the potty, or fixing my various little sisters hair) my parents never had me do much free babysitting until I was in my teens and already babysitting other people's children for pay...and in fact my mom recently admitted to me that they probably should have paid me for the times I was in charge of the youngers for more than an hour or two cause it was a lot of work. <br /><br />I have met the Duggars before. Several years after leaving home for college and then working, I tagged along with my family to an ATI homeschool conference to get in a little extra time with my family before being out of the country for an extended period. It was my first time I'd done anything ATI for a long time and it happened to coincide with the Discovery channel filming the Duggars. I think Michelle was pregnant with number 15 or 16 at the time. They seem like a nice family and definitely not as twisted of a family dynamic as some ATI families I have known about...but there are a few things that just don't sit well with me about them. <br /><br />My mom and I were talking about QF and family size in Biblical times and she said that as far as she can recall, the biggest family mentioned in the Bible where all the children had the same biological mother AND father there were eight children. My mom also said that since in Biblical times children were nursed long-term and abstinence was practiced postpartum for a period of time, the likelihood of children being any closer in age than 2.5-3 years apart was fairly slim. So the whole popping out a kid every year or so can't really be claimed as following Biblical principles. <br /><br />Another thing that bugs me is the buddy system...which I've even seen with family who aren't in ATI/QF (not my own family, but close family). The idea that it is somehow a child's JOB to take care of a younger sibling really bothers me. I admit, sometimes there are days when I don't FEEL like mothering and playing with my little son, but it is my job as a mom to do so. Since my husband and I will more than likely only have three children (as I want at least a couple years between kiddoes and since I married later)...I will never have the excuse to pass on my parenting responsibilities to my children (nor that I would). <br /><br />I'm catching up on your blog Ruth (stayed up WAY too late last night reading) and I just want you to know that you are brave and that you are being prayed for. <br /><br />My mom, despite still being very pro-ATI and at least accepting of the QF movement (though not part of it herself), on hearing me tell a little bit about your story was horrified...and she is praying for you as well.Rainey Dayehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15685053841481598449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-11862982081647134502010-04-08T00:35:01.046-07:002010-04-08T00:35:01.046-07:00Oh my yes !! I did see Anna's face in that ep...Oh my yes !! I did see Anna's face in that episode. She looked exhausted, she had to pick up Mr. & Mrs. D's slack. As do the other Duggar children. When the family is shown together out visiting places on that TLC show, more times than not, you will see Mr. & Mrs. Duggar holding hands, walking ahead, while the kids are left behind to deal with the young babies & toddlers. It's just WRONG on so many levels. We had seven children & we did NOT push our responsibilities onto our kids. Also, another thing is that we weren't put on this Earth by God to "be an island." The Duggar's need to grow & release the kids already. Let them attend college if desired. Or was their education not up to par?!! Bet not. How sad. Mrs. Duggar is always the "center of attention" as she is always pregnant, always needing pampered, etc. The kids are "stuck" to serve the family, to raise up their siblings (buddy system). Last time I checked my Bible, Jesus was out amongst the lowest of mankind, mingling, socializing, encouraging, healing...being Jesus. He was "not an island."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-937876260004761732010-04-07T16:38:55.776-07:002010-04-07T16:38:55.776-07:00What someone needs to do is to find out if this fa...What someone needs to do is to find out if this family is involved with the CULTic teachings of Bill Gothard. Gothard ( who has never married and has fathered no children ) believes that children should live at home until the marry, that they shouldn't be told about sex until the night before they marry, that couples should abstain from sex 40 days after a boy is born and 80 days after a female is born, etc.<br /><br />What Gothard's teachings do is create an ideal situation for the father/husband in the family and virtually turns the children into cheap labor for the family. <br /><br />There are families all over the country who have been destroyed by Gothard's teachings. http://www.pfo.org has an excellent report on this CULTic individual's teachings. <br /><br />The worst part is, is that the families that are into this garbage maintain a squeaky-clean image. I would love to be a fly on the wall when the camera's are off at the Duggar's house. I'd also like to get the older kids away from Ma and Pa Duggar, and pick their brains to see just what they really think of the CULTic family they are in. God help those kids!!!Mark Scheidererhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06802320100717809326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-61954423407187697762010-03-29T19:29:20.273-07:002010-03-29T19:29:20.273-07:00I feel bad for the children, especially the older ...I feel bad for the children, especially the older ones.<br /><br />Essentially, the older children raise the younger children, who in turn raise the children younger than them.Alannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-45533535120157717532010-02-02T12:29:39.851-08:002010-02-02T12:29:39.851-08:00I think Ruth should feel free to post what she ple...I think Ruth should feel free to post what she pleases. It's her blog about her thoughts about issues she's experienced. If someone wants a pro-duggar site, I'm sure there are lots of them. I don't have a lot of siblings, yet I see the insanity that is this family. However, Ruth has experienced being the oldest female who raises the babies and I believe her family had a difficult pregnacy. <br /><br />She has good reasons to bring up the way TLC glossed over the horrific health issues that this baby is experiencing.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13646259025324966793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-60002127501823683282010-02-02T12:05:10.797-08:002010-02-02T12:05:10.797-08:00Nancy,
She is posting about it on her very public...Nancy, <br />She is posting about it on her very public blog giving them free publicity. Just saying if she hates them so much, why watch them? Why pick everything apart about the show?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-46739348615613120212010-02-02T09:52:30.579-08:002010-02-02T09:52:30.579-08:00Edit: perhaps that should be - yes, I didgo to sch...Edit: perhaps that should be - yes, I didgo to school. I think I need a nap.<br /><br />JeanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-15997465184206482512010-02-02T09:51:27.097-08:002010-02-02T09:51:27.097-08:00I posted this on another board &m to date, no ...I posted this on another board &m to date, no one has remarked on it. So...I know, Ruth, you couldn't answer specifally(sp) about the Duggars but, for QF families in general, what if Josie had been 18 weeks or ealier when Michelle had pre-e, would they have allowed the c-section? Would that have been considered an abortion? <br /><br />Sorry, that is a terribly long sentence...LOL. And no, I did go to school.<br /><br />JeanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-7200496343905147102010-02-02T09:15:50.281-08:002010-02-02T09:15:50.281-08:00It only counts if you're a Nielsen family or y...It only counts if you're a Nielsen family or you DVR/TiVO the show. Otherwise, they extrapolate. <br /><br />NancyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-2957552281341124012010-02-02T08:28:14.491-08:002010-02-02T08:28:14.491-08:00As long as TLC has viewers (YOU) they will continu...As long as TLC has viewers (YOU) they will continue to produce this show. They don't care if you hate it - if you watch it, you are helping their bottom line. Think about it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-33388526128768231342010-02-02T07:25:06.669-08:002010-02-02T07:25:06.669-08:00I've been in her shoes - 24 weeker due to pre-...I've been in her shoes - 24 weeker due to pre-e. I actually thought they did a decent job of portraying the actual situation fairly realistically. Yeah, they did gloss over things like watching her be intubated but honestly for Josie's sake I'm sort of glad they did.<br /><br />I personally think at this point the Duggars have made lifestyle choices that have forced them to keep up the show and I suspect that played a large part in allowing the cameras all over during such an awful time. I don't see how they can afford the house and lifestyle they have chosen and the number of kids they have without the money they are making off of TLC.Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04313651557737242622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-9051414189822160792010-02-02T06:14:01.672-08:002010-02-02T06:14:01.672-08:00Oh gracious. I admit that I don't watch the Du...Oh gracious. I admit that I don't watch the Duggars - I just feel creepy about watching any reality show involving children (didn't we learn anything from the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dionne_quintuplets" rel="nofollow">Dionne quintuplets</a>?) but I had just assumed that TLC would have the good grace to either not bring cameras into the NICU, or talk honestly about the well-known risks of preclampsia. Gracious. Apparently good sense is tragically absent from these proceedings.ceehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09821988037261503591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-86481683605412351402010-02-01T22:41:57.594-08:002010-02-01T22:41:57.594-08:00Co-sign 100%. TLC's sugar-coating of what coul...Co-sign 100%. TLC's sugar-coating of what could have been a very dire situation was unconscionable. But the Duggars signed their lives away to TLC for the $$$$ and swag and sadly, I think they would have aired a VSE framed around the death of Josie, Michelle or both of them, if it came to that. Michelle was apparently very close to stroking out. <br /><br />JimBob (I'll save the nicknames for TWOP and FJ) needs to keep it zipped and close up shop for a while or those kids WILL have a step-mother about the age of his daughters sooner than they think. <br /><br />The big thing with the Duggars, and Ruth, you can confirm if this is a belief that is not exclusive to them, but they seem to be in denial. Maybe it's because they've been incredibly lucky for having so many kids, then great wealth from TLC to insulate them from the realities of life. Before Josie, the worst things that happened to them were the loss of Michelle's mother (many years ago, as far as I can tell) and Grandpa Duggar about a year ago. It's as if they live in some bubble of fantasy. I know the QF (and deny it all they want, it walks like a duck...they're QF, but distancing from it and direct mentions of ATI "homeschool conference" anyone?) to make their image less extremist (even the Bateses have lost the clown outfits since appearing on TV...it DOES corrupt, even those pontificating blowhards) and more mainstream. <br /><br />I can't stand lying or deception and while the Duggars aren't doing the first, they definitely participate, with TLC, in the latter. What bothers me the most is that people actually BUY the image. Sort of like the persona of someone like Rachael Ray, who comes off so "sweet," but her real side is starting to emerge the longer she has her TV show. She's not the girl-next-door, she's a slag (I'd say more, but out of deference, I'll leave it there). :)<br /><br />Harris is a doll. How considerate of him to bring the TV and ice cream. Good people are hard to find; he sounds like an awesome support, and if you have a class or two together, a good study partner or group memeber. <br /><br />All the best, <br /><br />NancyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com