tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post7544033991020483836..comments2023-10-10T03:57:29.110-07:00Comments on Razing Ruth: June 8th CommentRazing Ruthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04854418022850278216noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-14489089401191448182010-06-27T00:41:41.690-07:002010-06-27T00:41:41.690-07:00A simple google of Kay whoever led me straight to ...A simple google of Kay whoever led me straight to the irony of Ruth's moniker. <br /><br />http://ati.iblp.org/ati/students/opportunities/ruth/overview/<br /><br />Can we make a new definition for our new Ruth, and whatever floats your boat is the woman you want to be. I think we can improve on that slogan for women. I'm beat and the rest of you will see this on Sunday...no deadline, just a new acronym to reflect the change. Too bad "b" isn't there; I'd use the word in a hot second because our girl served it up and slapped both the cook and the waiter. <br /><br />Putting women "their" instead our "our" really bothers me. Fellow bitches, let's fight this label in this sexist corner of society that needs to be shown the woman is the center of the home and not the drudge. <br /><br />I don't have the message now..it's late and I just knocked out a 10 page paper. <br /><br />I have no idea when one is put in this track, as opposed to the missionary track the Duggar twins experienced in SE Asia. FTR, they taught nothing.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01861784200867887603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-42662683942686008572010-06-25T14:52:33.429-07:002010-06-25T14:52:33.429-07:00Ruth, congratulations on your excellent handling o...Ruth, congratulations on your excellent handling of one of a group I call internet FANatics. They are fans of a show or family and defend it without saying why it is so good or so great (most of the time) but by trying to shut up anyone who dares find anything wrong with the show or family. They have very little self-awareness to see that they are usually guilty of exactly what they claim the original posters are doing.<br /><br />Good for you and let me say I've enjoyed all of your posts and would love to be able to help you and anyone else trying to find a normal life after ATI. Are there any organizations that do that, if you know?SoCalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-67656801817294760132010-06-25T11:59:35.253-07:002010-06-25T11:59:35.253-07:00i just found this link, and i thought it applies v...i just found this link, and i thought it applies very well to what you have experienced through your father and BG... http://issendai.livejournal.com/572510.htmlIktomihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06764173102454691516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-88351593951328130872010-06-25T08:53:43.214-07:002010-06-25T08:53:43.214-07:00Ruth, Just wanted to tell you how much I enjoy you...Ruth, Just wanted to tell you how much I enjoy your blog! I found it this week (an article of yours linked from a Facebook group). I've read it all now and BACKWARDS at that =) I'm sorry that there's not more to read and soak up.<br /><br />I have come out of the IFB movement, but I was not home schooled (conservative Christian school). However, I was sheltered and wore only skirts and dresses etc. There's no way you can write what you did and not have experienced it. Thank you for sharing with me your life so far.<br /><br />I'm cheering for you! It's been hard to leave even in my mid-30's. Much love to you. <br /><br />Kim Bowen<br />Hot Springs, ARAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-8629419249272979412010-06-25T07:41:59.190-07:002010-06-25T07:41:59.190-07:00Well, as a QF person and someone who likes a lot a...Well, as a QF person and someone who likes a lot about the Duggars...<br /><br />I think that commenter is an idiot/spammer/troublemaker.<br /><br />It's comments like that that make me hesitate to introduce even moderately controversial topics on my blog, because I have a hard time remembering that some people have too much time on their hands and use it to cause trouble for others or seek to injure others.<br /><br />You don't owe a response to such people. Normal folks, with normal IQ's will recognize this as trolling and not take it seriously. Nobody's going to question you or start hating you because you don't give a point-by-point rebuttal to a troll.<br /><br />Also, while this person may indeed be a whacked out "defender" of ATI, he/she could be a bored 14 year old or a sloppy old drunk who's neither ATI, nor Christian, nor homeschooled. Who can fathom the reasons behind these kinds of postings? But I wouldn't take any of it seriously, including their implied claim to know the Duggars.Margaret/Cappuccino Lifehttp://www.homeschoolblogger.com/cappuccinosmomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-31143688142372176812010-06-24T20:23:50.977-07:002010-06-24T20:23:50.977-07:00@shadowspring
thankyou for that timely reminder.@shadowspring<br /><br />thankyou for that timely reminder.wandererhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05778254759850232985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-50664460085291416772010-06-24T14:12:10.601-07:002010-06-24T14:12:10.601-07:00I enjoyed this entry, Ruth.
Well done. :D
-Jenn...I enjoyed this entry, Ruth. <br /><br />Well done. :D<br /><br />-JennyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-53376269186982658032010-06-24T10:32:40.864-07:002010-06-24T10:32:40.864-07:00Hello m'dears!
Just sticking my head...Hello m'dears!<br /><br /> Just sticking my head in for a moment to make a little observation. I know that you want to keep a policy of open discussion, and that you don't want to accidently cross over into censorship, but I think you should seriously reconsider your policy of letting every anonymous comment stand. The problem is this: No moding + the ability to get a strong, passionate response = troll catnip. Seriously, God forbid Anon gets wind of this; with the lack of moding I'm only surprised the trolling hasn't been worse. <br /><br /> I'm not saying that you should delete comments that don't agree with you, but when things are blatantly insulting and out for a response, don't indulge! Don't engage! I completely understand that desire to vindicate yourself, but understand that engaging with someone who wants drama isn't going to do anything...but create more drama. And you really don't need that in your life. You don't need it sucking up your time, making you feel bad, and all the rest of it. So please do seriously consider giving ye ol delete button a workout, for your own sanity. And remember, if you do decide to mod, nobody is going to expect you to approve comments right away or even regularly. And it's not your job to host an open forum at the expense of having to deal with hurtful people. Let someone else deal with that. We can talk over at freejinger, etc, you don't need to do this by yourself, you don't owe anyone a forum, and you do NOT have to suffer trolls!<br /><br />*hugs* Just some friendly advice,<br />EdithAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-41439276587799959692010-06-24T10:26:30.644-07:002010-06-24T10:26:30.644-07:00Yikes Anon. Troll!
It's hard to take a person...Yikes Anon. Troll!<br /><br />It's hard to take a person seriously who cannot spell or put together a simple sentence<br /><br />I guess that home schooling didn't work out for you so well????<br /><br />-SueAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-1037492126900338682010-06-24T09:07:02.037-07:002010-06-24T09:07:02.037-07:00Um, Anon? I'm confused as to whether you'...Um, Anon? I'm confused as to whether you're trying to embarrass Ruth or her family... or possibly both. Because her family has been pretty clear about their wish for her to NOT publicize her identity and, subsequently, their own. So if you're posting in defense of Ruth's family and their ATI lifestyle, you're... kinda doing everything Ruth's father hopes Ruth herself won't.<br /><br />Oh, and you're doing it REALLY badly, too. It's called an education. Get one.jennl777https://www.blogger.com/profile/03381830487012041258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-50897474749049392752010-06-24T05:26:05.548-07:002010-06-24T05:26:05.548-07:00Spiritual/emotional/psychological/physical abuse t...Spiritual/emotional/psychological/physical abuse takes its toll on a personality. I think this anonymous poster has had a boat-load of abuse dumped on her life, and is cracking under the strain of cognitive dissonance.<br /><br />Here's the picture: a child needs her parents, needs to be loved. Parents are abusive, yet continually saying that they love the child, they do these things because they love the child, they do these things because God requires it, God loves the child, and yet...in the name of love all this abuse/neglect is occurring. It's crazy-making!<br /><br />When the reality that this is indeed harming you/has hurt you/is abuse is staring you in the face, now you have a problem: how to reconcile reality with what you have believed to be true about reality.<br /><br />For the strong, it is the first step in a journey of healing. For the more devastated and powerless, though, the need to deny reality is a true psychological NEED. If they can't get away (either a real entrapment or perceived entrapment) then they must shut down/shut up/silence/stop the things that are pointing out reality for what it is.<br /><br />This posters true anger is at the abuse he/she has/is suffered/suffering. The poster is not really angry at Ruth, she is displacing her anger onto Ruth because dealing with the reality of abuse is too much for he/she to face right now.<br /><br />Thank you, Ruth, for being tactful and kind. I hope it proves helpful to Anonymous in his/her eventual recovery.<br /><br />ps Don't blame home schooling for the atrocious education some home schooled kids get, unless you are also willing to blame all public schooling for the atrocious education some publicly schooled kids get.<br /><br />My daughter is a National Merit Commended Scholar who is at military training right now on her way to becoming an officer in the military upon her graduation from university.<br /><br /><br />My son will dual-enroll at community college as a junior in high school this year. He has yet to take his PSAT/SATs but I expect good things. He plans to pursue a career in science/medicine. <br /><br />He has lots of friends of all kinds: Jewish, atheist, Catholic, Lutheran, white, black, gay, straight, goth, punk, preppie. The only thing all of his friends have in common is they are straight edge. Most of them are also home schooled, but not all.<br /><br />It is religious fanaticism that is destroying the hearts of children, not home schooling per se.shadowspringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15172112981244682382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-45162478750915129382010-06-23T20:54:36.722-07:002010-06-23T20:54:36.722-07:00@Anonymous from this afternoon -
If you knew who I...@Anonymous from this afternoon -<br />If you knew who I was, you'd have posted my name from the beginning. As someone else pointed out - you're grasping at straws. It doesn't take much to find out who Kay Hill was and what she meant in the IBLP family. That doesn't mean I'm admitting she was the person who "helped" my mother. It doesn't even matter if she was or she wasn't - the point, of MY story, is that there are people within the organization whose purpose was to take completely overwhelmed women and shepherd them through trying times to promote the cause (growing the organization), as opposed to doing it to promote love or coping skills. <br /><br />I hope you find a more reasonable way to deal with the anger you seem to have.Razing Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04854418022850278216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-7276376500679656702010-06-23T20:19:00.063-07:002010-06-23T20:19:00.063-07:00Anon 2:47 -
I'm assuming from your poorly-wr...Anon 2:47 - <br /><br />I'm assuming from your poorly-written post that both your reading and writing skills are lacking. Sad. <br /><br />You seem to have missed where people denounced vulgarities. You've missed where it's been said that name calling is the resort of the desperate. Obviously, as you have nothing intelligent to say, you are desperate to hurl something at Ruth that you think will hurt her. Unfortunately you've missed the fact that many women don't flinch at being called "bitch" anymore. You say "bitch", we say strong, independent woman. Shame you don't like that.<br /><br />If you are in the same circle as the Duggars, how sad your family must be. You dishonor them with your insults, your words, your lack of education. If I were your mother, I would be ashamed of you. You do nothing but prove to the world that the school of the dining room table doesn't work, and that that brand of "Christianity" has nothing to do with the actual teachings in the Bible.<br /><br />Ruth, you're intelligent. You no doubt know that Anon here is flailing, grasping at straws, trying to say something that will hurt you. Don't let the cretin.Tae_Ki_Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02823742349810916837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-90087906936316883832010-06-23T19:19:15.392-07:002010-06-23T19:19:15.392-07:00Please, Anonymous, you are "scaring me straig...Please, Anonymous, you are "scaring me straight" if you are the future of America as it pertains to "the school of the dining room table." I won't even comment on your facts, but what I can comment on is your spelling. PLEASE, even if English was your second language, you should be spelling better than you do. I don't want to attack you, but come on! <br /><br />And how is Ruth a "Duggar opportunist"? Wouldn't she have to be making money off of the Duggars in order to be that? If anyone is a "Duggar opportunist", it's TLC and then the Duggars themselves who routinely pimp out their entire family to the public and then do sales and marketing for Bill Gothard and ATI. Talk about "opportunists." I came to this conclusion alone; I don't need Ruth to tell me this, so don't blame Ruth. If Ruth has said anything remotely close to this, it's because she states the obvious. Anyone in their right mind who has not been brainwashed can see that the Duggars are a brand and they are the sales people for Gothard and ATI.Dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-85054937699472305772010-06-23T16:32:23.624-07:002010-06-23T16:32:23.624-07:00Hopefully the anon that wrote that is having a bet...Hopefully the anon that wrote that is having a better day today. I also hope that they learn more appropriate methods of taking out frustration. <br /><br />Very well put response, I liked how civil it was :)Jarod Snoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-59796538729654296252010-06-23T15:32:08.567-07:002010-06-23T15:32:08.567-07:00i am so very confused by this poor demented anon w...i am so very confused by this poor demented anon who seems to be sad someone is attacking duggars/ati etc all the while saying 'bitch' a whole heap! um. what???<br /><br />on the other hand those crazies from the westboro have the most disgusting and offensive language i've ever heard, so it could be that. <br /><br />ruth, ignore. take heart. keep going onward and upward.<br /><br /><3wandererhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05778254759850232985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-91280362911754432912010-06-23T15:20:26.058-07:002010-06-23T15:20:26.058-07:00Hey anon troll 2:47: grow a pair and learn to spel...Hey anon troll 2:47: grow a pair and learn to spell. Way to represent Gothard and your cult, yet you're so obsessed that you have to "google things?" What is wrong with you?<br /><br />Don't answer that. Instead, hie thee to a pshychiatrist's office so he or she can adjust your meds.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01861784200867887603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-6295748803678692502010-06-23T14:47:14.926-07:002010-06-23T14:47:14.926-07:00Your a hipocrite to. You said ' if you really...Your a hipocrite to. You said ' if you really want me to take you seriously, why are you staying anonymous? '<br />want people to take you seriously and you wont even give people a name to put to you. I googled things you say especially about your mom's helper (Kay Hill) back in the day and ii know who your family is. I bet you are a Boring, Rogers, or Cabbot kid. I'll even prove I am onto you because I know your parents might have moved since you were living with them in Arkansas. You are a Duggar opportunist Bitch who lies. What if I did know the Duggars bitch what are you going to do if I say I know the Duggars<br />Is it hot in Califonra!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-52400014108175003492010-06-23T14:41:04.278-07:002010-06-23T14:41:04.278-07:00Okay Ruth, I know everyone else has said this, but...Okay Ruth, I know everyone else has said this, but my "Momma Bear" is coming out...so here is my 2 cents.<br />Please, darling, don't correspond w/ people like that poster. Don't give him/her any info. or email them at all. If they need money or support there are all kinds of support services in every community. I work in one. Say a prayer for this person (as I and many others will too) and then move on.<br />Okay honey, that's it :)! Enjoy your summer and the new job.Blessed Mommahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14705070730960125281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-19402085296708289862010-06-23T14:03:51.020-07:002010-06-23T14:03:51.020-07:00Well said, Ruth. I very much enjoy reading your b...Well said, Ruth. I very much enjoy reading your blog!Michellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01571788796906576300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-60534214943092455702010-06-23T11:21:27.851-07:002010-06-23T11:21:27.851-07:00Sounds like some of the same folks who left me suc...Sounds like some of the same folks who left me such comments as "I weep for your children" when I last wrote about the Duggars!Hopewellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02510172065585770709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-60835324799315494662010-06-23T08:46:02.045-07:002010-06-23T08:46:02.045-07:00That was an amazing response to a very negative si...That was an amazing response to a very negative situation, Ruth! It was infinitely more mature and collected then the Anon. poster and demonstrated the way civilized people should handle themselves when faced with a differing opinion.<br /><br />I'm so happy things are going well for you and that you like your new position. The family sounds very nice and I hope they're treating you well.<br /><br />Take care & enjoy yourself this Summer!<br /><br />AerynAerynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11005388492082752281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-90408648136362705872010-06-22T21:34:32.649-07:002010-06-22T21:34:32.649-07:00I enjoy reading about your life experiences and gr...I enjoy reading about your life experiences and growth. I particularly enjoy when you are so eloquent with your words to put someone in there place. It truly shows the type of person you are when you politely and maturely discredit a troll.<br /><br />You inspire me, Ruth. I have not lead the life of a QF or ATI, but I have nonetheless decided that my life needs to be shared, too. I, like you, wish for people to read and know that they are not alone and you can climb out of darkness. Keep your chin up and enjoy the new life you are making for yourself.<br /><br />If you have any extra time, I would love for you to pop by my blog. I extend the same invitation to everyone else, as well. The more the merrier, as they say, lol!<br />http://happyauraheavyheart.blogspot.com/<br /><br />God Bless you, Ruth!Aurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11900095904704264142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-471440284276429252010-06-22T20:34:39.994-07:002010-06-22T20:34:39.994-07:00Ruth,
You have many more supportive readersthan yo...Ruth,<br />You have many more supportive readersthan you do rude ones. I wouldn't be surprised if your Anonymous friend never responds to this; so often, bullies are truly cowards at the core.<br /><br />You, on the other hand, are courageous, strong, and confident. It isn't always easy living your truth, but I guarantee it's a lot easier than living a lie. <br /><br />With respect,<br />LisahAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-20985736727451678372010-06-22T17:37:07.666-07:002010-06-22T17:37:07.666-07:00Umm, it's a bit hypocritical to complain about...Umm, it's a bit hypocritical to complain about Ruth taking donations, when the Duggars used to accept donations through their website in addition to getting the nice TLC money. They might still even accept donations but I won't go to their website to look.<br /><br />And I remember a few episodes where the older kids didn't seem thrilled about a new pregnancy. They said they were happy about it, but the looks on their faces disagreed. And it's not like they're ever allowed to have different thoughts than their parents anyway.bananacatnoreply@blogger.com