tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post8006978750587445707..comments2023-10-10T03:57:29.110-07:00Comments on Razing Ruth: Whoa!Razing Ruthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04854418022850278216noreply@blogger.comBlogger101125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-35108927939199094062011-12-20T17:46:50.730-08:002011-12-20T17:46:50.730-08:00Ruthie..i have been reading several of your post&#...Ruthie..i have been reading several of your post's and i have tear's in my eyes. The paticular post from above has me astounded. What an evil ugly spirit blantently disregarding the very commandmant's of God to love and to display the fruit's of the spirit.Can you imagine had you married this guy? The life of abuse in word and deed? Remember dear.God promised He would be a Father to the fatherless. Your family is making a mockerly out of the gospel of Jesus Christ.God heal's ruthie.Right now i have never felt so much anger for a 'family i never met who appear's to be calling good evil and evil good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-44611720157121957032011-12-12T15:04:10.150-08:002011-12-12T15:04:10.150-08:00Boy you sure dodged a bullet there, Ruth! :) So gl...Boy you sure dodged a bullet there, Ruth! :) So glad you were able to choose your own man who is a far better man than the slime that wrote that awful letter. I'd be so embarrassed if a child I taught to read and write wrote a letter like that! LOL!ProudOfUnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-55298864711047350512011-11-22T20:18:31.489-08:002011-11-22T20:18:31.489-08:00This is my first visit to this blog, and pretty mu...This is my first visit to this blog, and pretty much all I know about the situation and the people involved so far is coming from this letter. My conclusion: Congratulations on being free of this whackjob, Lady Ruth! I am going to be praying so hard for the wife and children who are not so fortunate.Violet Blackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08461226178642951474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-20398393814477258372011-11-08T07:55:46.717-08:002011-11-08T07:55:46.717-08:00Somebody pays him $70000 a year? Did he just spell...Somebody pays him $70000 a year? Did he just spell his own name wrong?thepandabarehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09965299828974335249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-67251217472389718082011-08-27T08:40:49.469-07:002011-08-27T08:40:49.469-07:00Who will people believe? Um... I believe you, Ruth...Who will people believe? Um... I believe you, Ruth. I feel sorry for his children.<br /><br />And "sweet agony"? Who the heck talks like that?Hypatiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16753690091825424985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-746271972390472042011-07-17T22:55:03.678-07:002011-07-17T22:55:03.678-07:00I just found your blog recently and read through t...I just found your blog recently and read through the whole thing. I know this was a while ago, but I wanted to comment and say that I find this E-mail a bit sad. I'm a so glad you didn't marry this guy, but it's clear that he was raised just like you and that he believed the things told to him. It is so sad that he feels like a home and money is all that anyone could ask for. It is so sad that he feels like his life is better than yours just because he has a wife and kids as if you were an old woman who didn't have several years ahead of her to get married and have kids if you chose to. I also find it sad that he thinks 70 thousand a year is a lot of money and that he's rich or something. Yeah, it's a lot if you have like no kids or just a couple, but my family makes about 60k a year and we can pay our bills and have a little extra to go out, but I'm certainly not buying designer clothes or anything. And by my family, I mean my fiance and I. Add five kids in and I am sure we'd be dirt poor. This poor guy needs help and so does his wife. I'm sure it's too late, but I just find it so sad that so many kids end up like him.More than Navyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12737643594309265136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-64087229945833181682011-06-27T14:48:20.998-07:002011-06-27T14:48:20.998-07:00I'm going to suppress my first, second and thi...I'm going to suppress my first, second and third thoughts, as they are wholly irrational, and others have said them well enough. <br /><br />But I think that I should speak out in fairness. I am not one, ordinarily, to speak in support of the patrarichy, much less this particular model. I think it biases even good-hearted and well-meaning people to do harm unto one another with the very best of intentions.<br /><br />However, at the same time, let us do remember that most people, most of the time, try to do the best they can by the lights they know, and that ordinarily, their judgement will change given better light.<br /><br />On the other hand, there IS evil in this world, and it prospers by explointing people who are trying to do good while beliving that the darkness is a sort of special light.<br /><br />This man is evil, and a rapist, and a perp. And he'd be that whatever justification he claimed. He would claim some justification, of course, that's how he gains access to victims.<br /><br />So he's not *definitive* of even Gothard style life, or religion. But at the same time, the fact that that sytle of life and religion makes such a lovely hunting ground for such evil *is* a criticism. <br /><br />BTW, do check this out: While it's written by a noted pagan, I have actually seen it in use in christian cultwatch ministries, and it's widely cited in secular use. A generally handy rule of thumb.<br /><br />http://www.iol.ie/~plugin/bonewits.htmBob Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12331371505961522315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-48495648217448540312011-06-10T22:18:42.778-07:002011-06-10T22:18:42.778-07:00Ya, I know all to well about Indianapolis, I was t...Ya, I know all to well about Indianapolis, I was there! I was on "staff" for over a year! Then I was shipped off to Oklahoma to build another cult house for Mr Gothard...I am glad I got away from all of them! I would love to meet this fool that spoke to you this way...give me his email, I probably know him! Email me at mrtibbs405@gmail. com let's talk, you probably know my little sister! God bless!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-49301902900824038792011-06-01T20:46:03.629-07:002011-06-01T20:46:03.629-07:00Holy cow, I don't know where to start.
Ruth, ...Holy cow, I don't know where to start.<br /><br />Ruth, you don't need to be told again that it was great that you got away from this man (and I use that term loosely - no real man would go off on a ridiculous diatribe like this.)<br /><br />He certainly doesn't make a good case for the school of the dining room table. He can't spell, he has no grasp of grammar, he can't organize his thoughts. All he can do is poorly rant.<br /><br />I'm married now, but by his classifications, I was a whore. I went to college, got a good job, and dated men. But for some reason, my daddy didn't mind... go figure. ;)<br /><br />And masturbating! Oh no! You did something completely natural and normal. For shame. (Yet again, we see another manifestation of the patriarchal hegemony - deny the woman her natural sexuality in hopes of keeping her "in her place".)<br /><br />Mr. Unhinged Ex-Fiancé, you need to cut your ego and arrogance, and change your thinking and behavior. You have a wife and children that deserve more than a daddy dictator.Tae_Ki_Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02823742349810916837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-57588275307028215432011-05-27T20:51:08.800-07:002011-05-27T20:51:08.800-07:00"Being a TRUE WOMAN is accepting the roll GOD..."Being a TRUE WOMAN is accepting the roll GOD MADE YOU TO PERFORM."<br /><br />Spoken like an abuser, really. I'm flashing back to my abuser pulling similar crap -- it was "God's Will" that I be punished, because I dared to have my own mind. <br /><br />I'm really happy for you, for getting out of that situation. Best of luck in your healing and your life.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12468326016935108629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-68109083403247925712011-05-27T16:45:30.953-07:002011-05-27T16:45:30.953-07:00wow.. All I can say is wow and I feel for his wif...wow.. All I can say is wow and I feel for his wife and kids.Senceshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08563941057211752503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-84352618981568585682011-05-10T18:53:37.012-07:002011-05-10T18:53:37.012-07:00What woman wouldn't want the loving abuse this...What woman wouldn't want the loving abuse this guy brings into anyone's life?EDavishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17060423952264721851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-65768261838778993872011-05-10T18:52:48.971-07:002011-05-10T18:52:48.971-07:00Ruth, how could you let a catch like this slip thr...Ruth, how could you let a catch like this slip through your fingers?!EDavishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17060423952264721851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-77912735419459364122011-05-06T18:42:02.393-07:002011-05-06T18:42:02.393-07:00I love the irony that the email meant to exonerate...I love the irony that the email meant to exonerate him just proves every point you ever made about him and the whole lifestyle.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-75175691567923575542011-05-04T19:56:56.172-07:002011-05-04T19:56:56.172-07:00I literally laughed out loud at the masturbation a...I literally laughed out loud at the masturbation accusation.<br />But the rest of it just sickened me. His poor, poor family. The fact that another woman from this brainwashed cult actually managed to reject him before he got his claws into his current wife... well that says it all.Kayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00252893237892805417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-3770018639619247362011-04-29T14:36:55.867-07:002011-04-29T14:36:55.867-07:00If that was unprovoked, that e-mail is basically a...If that was unprovoked, that e-mail is basically a total admission that whoever he is, he's tired of his wife & obsessing about how he can conquer the girl he always wanted. As a dude, you just don't spend that much energy coming up with ways to try to bring someone back and make yourself the hero in your own head if you haven't been obsessing about her for a very very very long time, and pretty dissatisfied with how your own life turned out. I've known a few dudes who held grudges against high school girls who rejected them, and whether they admit it or not, it's always that they think the deep sadness they have over their inability to love their own wife is being turned into rage at their "first love" that they think would've worked out better, and not realizing the problems they are creating are their own.<br /><br />Make sense?<br /><br />I'm 99% sure that's what this is (assuming it was unprovoked. Is really sad for his wife & kids who are bearing the emotional, spiritual, and probably physical bruises of his anger.Rob Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06657843334125500080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-82383648259574506022011-04-27T12:56:17.073-07:002011-04-27T12:56:17.073-07:00Wow. That's quite the little diatribe. With th...Wow. That's quite the little diatribe. With the exception of the "Christianity" parts, he sounds a lot like my almost-ex-husband.<br /><br />It's a very good thing you got away from him and from all of that. I'm a homeschool grad, K-12, but none of my family life was ever like what you went through. I'm happy to say I've never known a family like that. We did not do the whole Gothard thing and the few families I know who participated in any way are now broken beyond repair.Rachel Leigh Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16004728242824462126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-8796098579611974962011-04-23T21:51:05.735-07:002011-04-23T21:51:05.735-07:00I feel so sorry for his wife. That poor woman.......I feel so sorry for his wife. That poor woman....I'm praying for her.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14595374879413741404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-15148160211241798202011-04-20T12:04:11.971-07:002011-04-20T12:04:11.971-07:00I am glad you "missed out" on this guy.
...I am glad you "missed out" on this guy.<br /><br />sigh.<br /><br />He's an idiot. And he gives conservative Christians a bad name. <br /><br />I am a little scared for his wife. His laudation of her doesn't match up with his attitude and I'm tempted to speculate that it's bragging for the benefit of the public, while he degrades her at home. I don't know that it is possible to have such a bitter, abusive personality and not have that spill out on the ones closest to him and the most vulnerable.CappuccinosMomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06707709617552413520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-82898466428439267432011-04-16T12:50:12.998-07:002011-04-16T12:50:12.998-07:00Thank GOD that you, Ruth, did not want what your &...Thank GOD that you, Ruth, did not want what your "daddy" had set up for you with this "man." <br /><br />I agree with the others here though, I will be praying for this man's poor, Poor, POOR children.<br /><br />;-)sj3339stahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06526608027958201084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-73065581502658396742011-04-14T15:52:32.041-07:002011-04-14T15:52:32.041-07:00Hey, dude - how does your wife feel about your con...Hey, dude - how does your wife feel about your continued obsession with your ex and her masturbation habits?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-37961369962989185482011-04-14T10:11:12.942-07:002011-04-14T10:11:12.942-07:00Wow. Just wow. So glad you made your escape from...Wow. Just wow. So glad you made your escape from the monster, and don't have to live with that hideousness forever. Because any time being married to him would feel like forever. His poor wife. Especially after the 20/20 special Friday, I have been thinking about you, and am so glad you are out of your family's sphere of influence.Michellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10309793901343639934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-73081043302453608512011-04-13T13:31:20.087-07:002011-04-13T13:31:20.087-07:00Ruth, congratulations for escaping from such a hor...Ruth, congratulations for escaping from such a horrible arrangement. Honestly it's probably a good thing you were engaged to such a cretin. If your father had arranged a match with a less grotesque person then perhaps you would have accepted and you would still be stuck in a destructive cult, probably with 4 or 5 kids of your own by now, and you would never have been able to have the experiences and the freedom that is now yours. <br /><br />If you've never read it, I would *highly* suggest reading the book "Infidel" by Ayaan Hirsi Ali. She is a hero of mine who escaped from an arranged marriage as well. The backlash from friends and family mirror "Darth Daddy" and "Aron"'s words almost exactly. Fundamentalist religions are all cut form the same cloth, whether Christian, Muslim, or any other breed of insanity.<br /><br />Good luck on your future. It sounds like you've got a good head on your shoulders and will make smart decisions that will get you to an even better place in life.The Mormon Atheisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00725259776944812714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-72680384100141063602011-04-12T20:39:18.421-07:002011-04-12T20:39:18.421-07:00What a whacko. Enough said.What a whacko. Enough said.thatsithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05027510019995417223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2201165796329163117.post-84338688104642855942011-04-11T06:01:27.390-07:002011-04-11T06:01:27.390-07:00I've been thinking about this letter and I sus...I've been thinking about this letter and I suspect that part of what underlies Aron's anger is that Ruth, a mere woman, walked away from her father's control and he cannot walk away from his. Buried in the sentence "I prayed and God told me that my father was right that I had to ask you for your hand" is the clear command from Aron's dad "I had to ask you for your hand". As someone else pointed out, it's hard to imagine anyone as badly educated as Aron making $70,000 a year unless he's working in an established family business. So Aron is under daddy's thumb but Ruth, younger and female, walked away from hers, and despite hard luck and struggles, did not go running back. I'm sure he is hoping for lightning to strike her at any moment, so the nagging little voice in his head that says, "You do too have choices, but you're afraid to make them" will shut up already.Coleslawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06813319585807128092noreply@blogger.com